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Thomas Zach Ocarina; An unusual vintage ocarina
Topic Started: 8 Oct 2012, 05:59 AM (7,742 Views)
Wollemi Pine
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Here's a Thomas Zach ocarina from my collection. It was made in the late 1800's, and I think it was made in either Germany or Austria. It comes with its own case.

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Thomas Zach - Born 1812 in Zínany, Czech Republic. Died 1892 in Vienna, Austria. Trained with J. B. Dvorak and A. Sitt in Prague. Worked in Budapest with J. B. Schweitzer, succeeding to his business in 1857. He sold the shop to Schunda 1862, moving to Subotica, Croatia, 1863, Pécs, Hungary 1864 and Bucharest, Romania 1865. There he was appointed luthier to Prince Sturdza supplying the court with a large number of instruments. In 1869 he made his final move to Vienna, where he develop and sustained a very high reputation.
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Fred
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its beautiful wollemi im very jealous
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pandorado100
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It's so beautiful. I'm not into collecting antiques but I definitely like this one. Nice find, Wollemi. Where did you get it?
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melodican
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Behold! 'Tis the flute of my people!

Yes, what pandorado100 said! This makes my antique sense tingle. XD
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angiessa
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Very lovely, Wollemi!
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Jack Campin
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I feel hungry.

Do you get them in plain as well as milk? Maybe with raisins or hazelnuts?
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melodican
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Behold! 'Tis the flute of my people!

Chocolate seems to be the topic of the day. You have a real knack for changing how I look at things, Jack. XD
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Fred
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Lmao jack you are killing me :p

If only I knew where Wollemi was in Cali :p

*devious face*
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Jack Campin
8 Oct 2012, 04:32 PM
I feel hungry.

Do you get them in plain as well as milk? Maybe with raisins or hazelnuts?
I want to see a Cadbury cream ocarina now.
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melodican
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FortyTwoBlades
8 Oct 2012, 04:45 PM
I want to see a Cadbury cream ocarina now.
Didn't someone try that at one point? It'd be neat to play a tune or two, then eat it. :3
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angiessa
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I wouldn't think it could be a *cream* ocarina, though. The filling would be messy when you tried to play a tune...
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Fred
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Lmao XD hysterical
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melodican
8 Oct 2012, 04:20 PM
Yes, what pandorado100 said! This makes my antique sense tingle. XD
Tingling is good. :)
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Fred
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*looks up Wollemi pine on spokeo* :p
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FortyTwoBlades
8 Oct 2012, 04:45 PM
I want to see a Cadbury cream ocarina now.
I think you had something like this in mind?

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Getting back on topic, I think the Thomas Zach ocarinas may have been made as early as 1878.
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Fred
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Yumm doughnut ^.^
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FortyTwoBlades
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A doughnut is NOT a Cadbury. :shakefist:
Edited by FortyTwoBlades, 8 Oct 2012, 08:37 PM.
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Where'd you get it? How does it sound?
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Wow, that looks Amazing! And it looks like chocolate too, lol.
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pandorado100
8 Oct 2012, 06:19 AM
It's so beautiful. I'm not into collecting antiques but I definitely like this one. Nice find, Wollemi. Where did you get it?
From Pennsylvania from a place called Hershey. Hey, wait a minute!
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Jubal
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I wish I could find nice vintage ocarinas in antique shops. All I ever found was a Fiehn that became all air after three notes.
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SuperBobKing
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I have seen one of those once before. I remember because the person was complaining about how hard it had been to get the windway clean.
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The oldest oc that I have ever seen in person is probably erm, hummm, lets see.... My friends plastic alto C.
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miguel from portugal
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Nice. It seem's chocolate easter egg.
I think in somehere in time it was use to decorate the ocarinas that way because most of the old portugese oc's are decorated and even the recent from Casquinha have drawing's engraved.
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Wollemi Pine
8 Oct 2012, 11:49 PM
pandorado100
8 Oct 2012, 06:19 AM
It's so beautiful. I'm not into collecting antiques but I definitely like this one. Nice find, Wollemi. Where did you get it?
From Pennsylvania from a place called Hershey. Hey, wait a minute!
Hmm... your evasiveness as to your ocarina's provenance suggests that somewhere, a museum of antiquities is missing a rare, priceless ocarina from their musical collection.




http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HhHwnrlZRus
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Wollemi Pine
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I got it from Munich, Germany. It also came with some kind of certificate.

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Wollemi Pine
10 Oct 2012, 02:56 AM
I got it from Munich, Germany. It also came with some kind of certificate.

Willy Wonka, Willy Wonka, the amazing oc'latier!
:rofl: I'm glad I finished taking a drink before I saw the "certificate"...
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SuperBobKing
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I didn't realize it was a joke until I finished reading it to see how it related to the ocarina (I didn't read all of it though, I skipped most of the small text).
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Fred
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LMAO to good.. :P

now where can i find a wonka ticket? :p
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pandorado100
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Wow, you got the Golden Ticket, lucky you!

Now you can go and serenade all the Oompah Loompahs with the Pure Imagination song on your chocolate ocarina. :)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r2pt2-F2j2g&feature=related
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Wollemi Pine
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I love that song! And the Oopmah Loompah song, too!

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ABC for the Oompa Loompa Song:

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pandorado100
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I love the fact that you have an ABC file with music sheets for the Oompah Loompah song, Jack. :)

Would you also have a link to the Pure Imagination song? I think I'd like to learn that one too.
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Wollemi Pine
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Thanks for the ABC file, Jack!
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pandorado100
11 Oct 2012, 12:22 PM
I love the fact that you have an ABC file with music sheets for the Oompah Loompah song, Jack. :)

Would you also have a link to the Pure Imagination song? I think I'd like to learn that one too.
Search the sheets section, it's in here somewhere. I'll link later if I get the chance.
Here you go.
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11 Oct 2012, 12:22 PM
I love the fact that you have an ABC file with music sheets for the Oompah Loompah song, Jack. :)

Would you also have a link to the Pure Imagination song? I think I'd like to learn that one too.
Search the sheets section, it's in here somewhere. I'll link later if I get the chance.
Here you go.
Hey thanks a lot! I looked at the music. It's very playable but just a little trickier than the Oompa Loompa song because of the subholes. I'll work on it until I get it right. :)
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11 Oct 2012, 06:21 PM
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11 Oct 2012, 12:22 PM
I love the fact that you have an ABC file with music sheets for the Oompah Loompah song, Jack. :)

Would you also have a link to the Pure Imagination song? I think I'd like to learn that one too.
Search the sheets section, it's in here somewhere. I'll link later if I get the chance.
Here you go.
Hey thanks a lot! I looked at the music. It's very playable but just a little trickier than the Oompa Loompa song because of the subholes. I'll work on it until I get it right. :)
Glad I could help! The only reason I knew it was in here is cause I'm working on it myself, I think it would sound best on a tenor personally.
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1:58 Looks familiar? It's got the case and everything!
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TheZ
12 Oct 2012, 06:53 PM
1:58 Looks familiar? It's got the case and everything!
Good eye! Yes, that is another Thomas Zach. Mine is a bigger version. Here's a still frame from the video:

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MarkChan
8 Oct 2012, 11:28 PM
Wow, that looks Amazing! And it looks like chocolate too, lol.
How to make a chocolate ocarina.

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miguel from portugal
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I was unable to play it! I just bite it on the first note!

Wen you break it i whant a piece!
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Jafafa Hots
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I have an old Thomas Zach too.
Did some research on him, found the patent for his particular style of windway. Patented in 1878.
I'll post better info/links once I dig it up.
Zach ocs were made in Austria. The Wein on the stamp refers to Vienna.

Mine has the same sgraffito designs but doesn't have the numbering.
See pics in my flickr stream here.

He actually had a pretty good reputation for quality at the time it seems, made porcelain violins and such.

My Thomas Zach was my favorite 19th century oc until another rare one I found more recently took its place.
Mine does struggle with the high notes, though. I think the curved windway contributes to condensation.

Still my 2nd favorite pre-1930 ocarina though. Prefer it over my Mezzetti.
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Cool! I've included a photo of yours here.

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Did yours come with a case? It seems that was a common thing for this ocarina.
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Old. Just really, really old. Also tired.
Wollemi Pine
14 Oct 2012, 08:02 AM
Cool! I've included a photo of yours here.

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Did yours come with a case? It seems that was a common thing for this ocarina.
No case with mine. :( But then, I got it dirt cheap too so that's ok. :)

Thing I like about this oc (mine at least) is that it has such a warm, deep resonant sound.
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SuperBobKing
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You mentioned porcelain violins. Have you seen any pop up, and if so how much were they?
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14 Oct 2012, 03:34 PM
You mentioned porcelain violins. Have you seen any pop up, and if so how much were they?
I've never seen any for sale, I just found a reference to him selling them and other instruments, and googled around, finding that apparently such things were tried back then or whatever.
Info was pretty scarce, just that patent and a couple of ad/news references in periodicals.
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