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Giorgio Cataldi/Tytoalba ocarinas; Multichambers
Topic Started: 3 Mar 2012, 01:01 PM (13,376 Views)
tytoalba
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Hi
I show you my first ocarina, be set up in triple configuration:
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in single chamber version, with opening very inclined those who suffer from pre angle of the wrists. Of course with the addition of the hole of the right thumb will be at 12 holes with fingering choice (Japan - TAIW - It).
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The version has double the range A4-C7; n triple version is up to the G7.
Comments and criticisms are welcome.

Regards
Giorgio
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Everett Ocarinas
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It is beautiful Giorgio, great work! :thumbsup:
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OberonOcarinas
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O_o It looks very maparam-esque. awesome work!!
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kissing
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I really do love your 12-hole Alto C ocarina, and I really apologise for not making much videos with it.

They really have a crisp, expressive tone - great for that jazzy sound.
I just might have to use it in an upcoming vid.

The multichambers are looking great. I too suspect some inspiration from Maparam :)
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tytoalba
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@ Jade
Thanks for the compliments. You're also doing things with the new kiln beads!

@ Kissing
ou are right Sam. I'm a nostalgic of Maparam. In my opinion Minsoo Kim is and will remain the largest manufacturer of ocarinas of all time!. His way of building ocarinas has something scary. None so far as He can make ocarinas
I set out to have something of her in all my ocarina.

Best regards
George
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tytoalba
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The triple. I just finished close
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Regards
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Jack Campin
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I wouldn't buy a multiple with a mouthpiece like that.

Pacchioni gets it right. The tapered edge on his ocarinas means you can easily seal your lips around just one hole. I have scarring on my lips from surgery and there is no way I could ever play just one chamber with your design.

I don't think Pacchioni has patented his mouthpiece design, so it's surprising anybody still makes them any other way.
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Jack Campin
23 Apr 2012, 11:09 AM
I wouldn't buy a multiple with a mouthpiece like that.

Pacchioni gets it right. The tapered edge on his ocarinas means you can easily seal your lips around just one hole. I have scarring on my lips from surgery and there is no way I could ever play just one chamber with your design.

I don't think Pacchioni has patented his mouthpiece design, so it's surprising anybody still makes them any other way.
They are always quite receptive of criticism. The image shows a mouthpiece that will perfectly finished ocarina to dry, then fired, then coated with shellac. With regard to its shape, I know that someone in the forum has some difficulty with the type Pacchioni. This does not mean that I can also adopt a mouthpiece Pacchioni in the customization.

Regards
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I agree with Jack that the Pacchioni mouthpiece is fantastic (the best shape imo) but I have also tried other multi chamber ocs with this form of mouthpiece that I have had no trouble playing.

Regardless, fantastic work Giorgio! :D
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Cambell
23 Apr 2012, 12:12 PM
I agree with Jack that the Pacchioni mouthpiece is fantastic (the best shape imo) but I have also tried other multi chamber ocs with this form of mouthpiece that I have had no trouble playing.

Regardless, fantastic work Giorgio! :D
Ok. I will keep this suggestion. Thanks for the compliments. The other bells were invited to intervene.
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Wow, Giorgio, this is truly beautiful, well done! It looks almost reminiscent of a Maparam but much better-looking in my opinion. Really lovely work, i think you are going to be the master of the next generation of makers! :thumbsup:
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Thank you Jade. I always flattering :hi:
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Nice work! Are the added chambers sized using a flat sheet mold?
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IslandOcs
23 Apr 2012, 09:13 PM
Nice work! Are the added chambers sized using a flat sheet mold?
I'm not sure I have understood the question. Let me answer it anyway: I used individual molds for each room. Then I made the hardpoints that permit the assembly stabilized between the rooms. See the image of the first prototype.
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Interesting method, thanks for explaining.
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CKeene
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The work looks great Giorgio. I have yet to have a triple in my collection and I was thoroughly impressed with the single I ordered from you. I don't know if you ever looked over the review I wrote for it but I hope you have or will as I am a demanding player and was thoroughly impressed. I would love to try one of these doubles or triples out. I'm sure it will earn another rave review as the last one did. I'm glad to spread the word about your work and encourage everyone to try one of your ocarinas. Let me know when these doubles and triples will be ready.
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CKeene
24 Apr 2012, 10:51 AM
The work looks great Giorgio. I have yet to have a triple in my collection and I was thoroughly impressed with the single I ordered from you. I don't know if you ever looked over the review I wrote for it but I hope you have or will as I am a demanding player and was thoroughly impressed. I would love to try one of these doubles or triples out. I'm sure it will earn another rave review as the last one did. I'm glad to spread the word about your work and encourage everyone to try one of your ocarinas. Let me know when these doubles and triples will be ready.
Hi Ckeene
I take this opportunity to thank you for the last review. For double and triple I need time. Compared to a single chamber 12 holes, problems are different. You have to control the uniformity of sound character, along with your level. Finally the pressure of breath as much as possible constant or increased slightly. Unfortunately, in the triple has strong game the imponderable linked to problems during the drying or firing.
See you soon
Best regards
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this is most excellent work Mr. Cataldi! Do you use molds for the smaller chambers as well or just the first?
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24 Apr 2012, 12:18 PM
this is most excellent work Mr. Cataldi! Do you use molds for the smaller chambers as well or just the first?
Thank you.
Each room has its own independent mold.

Bye
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Hi
In this double I decided to take into consideration some suggestions of some of you. The shape of the mouthpiece very reminiscent of those of Pacchioni. I still have time for more changes as a result of your suggestions.
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Kenjo The Pomeranian!!!
It's really beautiful!
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definitely going to have to get a multi chamber from you
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tytoalba
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I propose a quadruple AC ocarina with the holes for the fingers a little more close to one of the chambers. This has a round tone, but I can do it with sound Italian. The fingering is like on Pacchioni, with offspring under the left thumb hole (second and third chamber). I can also make alternative fingerings. Finally for those who want the rows of holes closer together will have to wait 2013. Let me know if you are interested.

Regards
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Nice... I like the very minimalist form, no bends and no diferent level in the switch of the cameras.

Hope to see that on Budrio Festival.
Edited by miguel from portugal, 11 Oct 2012, 10:45 AM.
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Giorgio, I've been thinking of asking you to make a double for me with slightly high breath. Little less than the Etruscan clay but more than Focalink Forte, I'll send you a PM :D
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tytoalba
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This is the finished prototype
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New multichamber Tenor "A" / "G" with fingering Pacchioni _P_.
A request fingering Vicinelli.
Number of chambers from two to five.
In the picture is a double Tenor "A" with fingering Vicinelli.
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Giorgio
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miguel from portugal
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Que bella!
I just love it, hope to see and ear it in budrio next april.
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tytoalba
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Hi
The first prototype of "Pentarina" Alto G, Pacchioni-P fingering, with some corrections.
It is not yet finished. I will have to improve the finish.
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Fred
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It's very beautiful and in G just lovely.
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Oh my goodness! You are so talented! That's beautiful! You should post of video of you playing it so we can hear how it sounds!
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Hi
Finished the prototype of the five chambers
The shade is "G".
The fingering is derived from P. Pacchioni
It has some adaptations for greater coherence between the chambers:
Second chamber starts with "F # 5" (instead of "G5") and ends with "D6" (instead of "E6") for best agreement with Fourth chamber;
In the Third and Fifth chamber note "F" is natural.
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http://youtu.be/7gFcG_-x-aA

This is Double Tenor "A"
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http://youtu.be/QkVZnqdt-oA
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Wow, that's quite the range there.
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That's almost a piano!
Nice!!!
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Oh my goodness 5 chambers? That's going to be some chamber switching required!
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Hi
This is the version with Alto C double, fingerings Vicinelli.
I struggled a little to the optimization due to some peculiarity that summed together complicate the system.
The special features are: extremely flattened shape in the lower house, the type of clay (Etruscan), the addition of two sub holes, the hole in the left little finger plays the "Mi" full.

If after drying and subsequent firing, everything will work properly, will send it to Achint.
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Hi
Another version in Etruscan clay with fingering Vicinelli. In this case it is without thumb hole. It works better than the last. After drying and firing, if it is not unpleasant surprises, will send it to Achint.
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Wollemi Pine
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Looks good! I'm sure achint will be happy.
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tytoalba
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Hi
Is a new Double Alto C at high sound pressure.
The fingering is:
lower chamber from A4 to E6;
upper chamber from C6 to A6.
No "Thumb holes" in the upper chamber.
To adopt the fingering Vicinelli, I'll make new molds with volume reduced by about 30% for the upper chamber.
Due to the sound power, does not need any amplification when playing.
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This is very interesting. So this is an Asian twelve hole but with a Pacchioni system overlap. I think this is a great idea. I would be interested in one of these. Perhaps a triple with a Pacchioni style overlap.

What would this double or a triple cost with the overlap?
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Hei CKeene
the prices you I indicated in a personal message. I currently have suspended sales because I'm working for the next Ocarinafestival Budrio.
If you can wait until you tell me the sound characteristics you choose.
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Hi
I continue the construction of double fingering Vicinelli, in the hope of being able to send a Achint. is made of red clay standards. It has an extension from A4 to E6 for the first chamber, while from E6 to C7 for the second chamber. For its implementation, I used the mold of the ocarina to 5 chambers.
I have not used the clay Etruscan because it would cause a type of sound overly structured. This would be in contrast with the tastes of the final user.
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Make music, not notes! >:(
Why did you make only one note overlap?
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3 Jun 2013, 08:41 PM
Why did you make only one note overlap?
So you have options on the fingering, and can do less chamber switching.
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3 Jun 2013, 08:41 PM
Why did you make only one note overlap?
Why I was asked for an extension of more than two octaves.
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