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Rock the Oc'! 2011 (Discussion thread)
Topic Started: 18 Sep 2011, 09:02 PM (12,397 Views)
Sherb
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That's right kiddy's, it's that time again.

The people who have been on TON since 2009, may remember that I made a collaborative video, where everyone submitted a 30 second'ish clip of them playing a song, and I put them together (quite poorly I may add).
There were also several entries which glitched out and stuff and became unuseable :(
That won't happen again this year as I have much better software etc.

For those who didn't see it, look at this!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vo0mMUHz-t4

Now, TON is bigger and has a lot more members. So I assume more interest will be taken.
Also, I had a restricted amount of spaces last time, unfortunately. This time there will be no cap on the amount of members (unless it gets ridiculous).
And since I have been granted unlimited upload time recently, the video shall have no cap on length.

This discussion thread is for people to submit ideas etc.
Since 2010 got complicated, and I tried to do too much, it failed, and I refuse to let that happen again.
This year will be only one video, on one subject.
What is the subject?
This is what we need to figure out :3

I would very much like to do the same "Submit a clip and I'll throw it in" but that created kind of a mess. 2009 wasn't the most organise video ever xD

So, Ideas and such are welcome (well, needed) here.

Thanks in advance
~Sherb!

Also:
You can check out the previous Rock the Oc' threads here, to see what was good and what wasn't.

2009: http://theocarinanetwork.com/topic/6682226/1/
2010: http://theocarinanetwork.com/topic/6778574/1/
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Jhaemes
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For a general theme, I'd say outdoors!

It'll be a great excuse to get ocarinists outside, far too many of us are the "bedroom players". It'd also make the video stunning, if people can find an area of natural beauty ^^

Not too sure what the musical theme could be.
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Sherb
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Hm, outdoors clips would be very nice.
I wonder how many people would be willing to do that xD

I'll definitely keep it as a possibility
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Jonnvoll
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It should have even more collaboration. It would be cool if everyone played the same song, and then it was edited together.
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Sherb
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As much as I would love to do that, that would make it just like every other collab.
I really like the idea of a vast variety of songs and different kinds...

Also, that was the part of 2010 that totally messed it up. So I don't want to dabble in such a thing on such a large scale.
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brunocbreis
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How about everyone plays Jazz Standards?
There are some people here that only play videogame and anime songs, but not because it's the only thing they like, because they don't really know other kinds of music or just think the ocarina "is not for that".
(Of course not everyone is like this and many people who choose to play that kind of stuff that have a lot of musical background.)
And Jazz Standards are a suggestion, but it could be something like Classical or Baroque or love ballads haha or whatever!
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Jhaemes
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How about movie themes?

That encompasses a wide genre, think from Eye of the Tiger to He's A Pirate, massive range of different styles etc.

The problem with suggesting one genre is that not everyone likes that genre. With movie themes, for example there is a massive range of genres (see above).

I think the best way would be getting people who want to participate and asking them what they want to play, then organising around that.
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Sherb
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Jhaemes
18 Sep 2011, 09:44 PM
How about movie themes?

That encompasses a wide genre, think from Eye of the Tiger to He's A Pirate, massive range of different styles etc.

The problem with suggesting one genre is that not everyone likes that genre. With movie themes, for example there is a massive range of genres (see above).

I think the best way would be getting people who want to participate and asking them what they want to play, then organising around that.
Honestly, This is a perfect idea.

I was thinking about anime, or something, as a lot of us will like that.
Everybody on this forum will have watched a movie before and there are some amazing soundtracks out there.

There is just one slight problem.
I don't plan to allow backtracks... And a movie soundtrack without a backtrack won't always work out that great.

At the moment, this is my favourite idea~! If nothing else comes up by next week, this is what I will use.
Thanks!
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Jhaemes
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Yeah, I understand about the backtrack part.

He's A Pirate, without a backtrack is still recognisable, due to the ocarina taking lead. I guess it'd be up to the ocarinist to select a suitable theme and play the most recognisable part.
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Yoshi
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i think movie themes is an awesome idea!
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hjordis
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This is great! I didn't know about this even though I've been through some of the archives. I really like the idea of playing outdoors. Hopefully not too many people are opposed to it. Those who are shy can always go find a secluded area- those are the prettiest anyways.

As for a theme, I have no ideas so I'll leave that to other people.
Edited by hjordis, 18 Sep 2011, 10:16 PM.
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Sherb
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Movie themes + Outdoors is a little weird.

We may have to have one without the other xD But I guess we could use both, depending on how it may turn out.

I may just say that outdoors is preferred, but not required
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brunocbreis
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You just have to trust that people will choose to play the movie themes that actually sound good and recognizable without a backtrack!
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Sherb
18 Sep 2011, 10:32 PM
Movie themes + Outdoors is a little weird.

We may have to have one without the other xD But I guess we could use both, depending on how it may turn out.

I may just say that outdoors is preferred, but not required
Heh, I was thinking that too. Well I like either idea and will probably end up playing outside no matter what the theme ends up being since I've been looking for an excuse, but I'll have to pick a song that fits it. Others may want to choose a song that would be weird to play outdoors.
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Aleatz
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I reckon if you go with music themes then maybe you could have each person with one prop relating to that movie. i.e. Pirate hat for PotC, or hair pigtails with blue bows for Wizard of Oz.
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Sherb
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18 Sep 2011, 11:22 PM
I reckon if you go with music themes then maybe you could have each person with one prop relating to that movie. i.e. Pirate hat for PotC, or hair pigtails with blue bows for Wizard of Oz.
This is a good idea.
I won't ask for that as a requirement, as people may not have a prop.
But I will offer bonus 'points' to those who do ;)

Keep 'em coming guys, this is great!
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Brendoge
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I like the idea of movie themes, to get some song ideas out there, here is the American Film Institutes 100 Years... 100 Songs playlist: 100 Years, 100 Songs So Rock the Oc' 2010 failed? Well firstly we should organise a nice hook for a viewer, an ocarina + electric guitar playing some song in sync, while a great intro transition (remember this?) is playing followed by a collaborated message from our members.

The admins and mods could say "Welcome to Rock the Oc' 2011" then all entrants could pop up in bubbles or something on the screen and say all at once "...with the members of the Ocarina Network!"

A few things I suggested last time:

  • You need to have many more people contributing
  • Definately better editting program(s)
  • Well mixed so that the next player will start instantly or cross-mixed
  • Have short Ocarina tunes otherwise rock the oc will go for half an hour
  • Try and get everybody using good camera angles and nice scenery
    Instead of in front of the computer (like Jhaemes suggested)
  • 1 video per person, on the 2009 video I recall I watched
    scene's with Sam in it three or four times and everybody else once
  • Great video effects with the typography (text) and transitions between players
  • Avoid any form of credits, no really, instead just have us all pop up for a
    closing message "Buy an ocarina, join in on the fun!" (or similar ideas)
  • Perhaps some very light background music instead of awkward silence
  • A consistent frame around the videos maybe, to smooth transitions?
  • Well known songs, this wasn't really a problem in 09 just a reminder though
Less talking, more doing! 8-)
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Sherb
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19 Sep 2011, 02:42 AM
I like the idea of movie themes, to get some song ideas out there, here is the American Film Institutes 100 Years... 100 Songs playlist: 100 Years, 100 Songs So Rock the Oc' 2010 failed? Well firstly we should organise a nice hook for a viewer, an ocarina + electric guitar playing some song in sync, while a great intro transition (remember this?) is playing followed by a collaborated message from our members.


The admins and mods could say "Welcome to Rock the Oc' 2011" then all entrants could pop up in bubbles or something on the screen and say all at once "...with the members of the Ocarina Network!"
I actually REALLY like this idea. I'm definitely using it!

A few things I suggested last time:

  • You need to have many more people contributing
    Definitely!

  • Definately better editting program(s)
    [I have become pretty handy with vegas and After-effects since :3

  • Well mixed so that the next player will start instantly or cross-mixed
    I will do my best with this!

  • Try and get everybody using good camera angles and nice scenery
    Instead of in front of the computer (like Jhaemes suggested)
    Definitely

  • 1 video per person, on the 2009 video I recall I watched
    scene's with Sam in it three or four times and everybody else once
    A few people submitted multiple entries. But yes, I will keep it to one per person this time

  • Great video effects with the typography (text) and transitions between players
  • Avoid any form of credits, no really, instead just have us all pop up for a
    closing message "Buy an ocarina, join in on the fun!" (or similar ideas)
    Again I LOVE this!

  • Perhaps some very light background music instead of awkward silence
    I don't really want to, but I will see what i can do

  • A consistent frame around the videos maybe, to smooth transitions?
    Again, I will definitely do this

  • Well known songs, this wasn't really a problem in 09 just a reminder though
Less talking, more doing! 8-)
A lot to respond to. Basically typed my messages in bold for you :3

You have some amazing ideas here!

Also, I never saw that rock the oc' 10 video last time. Or if I did, I don't remember it...
Do you know who made it? I would like to contact them about making another...
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Achint
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Fat Mouse >^_^<

I don't know about participating, but I'd be more than glad to help with the audio, if you're willing to take up the hassle of sending videos across and such...

On a side note... weird typewriter effect on the "fast reply" box o.o
Jaaaack, what're you upto? xD
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Sherb
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Achint
19 Sep 2011, 03:13 AM
On a side note... weird typewriter effect on the "fast reply" box o.o
Jaaaack, what're you upto? xD
It's currently glitching out for chrome, as jack applied some code to make it auto expand when needed D:

Also, I'd honestly like to keep the editing part to myself. That way I'm the only person to blame if it messes up. Plus it's less hassle that way.
Thanks anyway though ^^
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Brendoge
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Sherb
19 Sep 2011, 03:04 AM
You have some amazing ideas here!

Also, I never saw that rock the oc' 10 video last time. Or if I did, I don't remember it...
Do you know who made it? I would like to contact them about making another...
Cheers Sherb,

Yeah the members name is 'Sythean' with the email address: Silverwing147@linkinpark.com
Profile: http://theocarinanetwork.com/profile/3051556/ (found him on rock the oc '10 page 2).

Cool, looks like you're on the right track. Ready to rock & roll.
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HydraOcarinaV2
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Can it be any song or does it have to fit a certain genre?
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AmandaCeline
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I'd love to join!
Maybe take in suggestions and start a poll?
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Sherb
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I love the current interest! But I'm not YET taking entries (this is merely a discussion thread).
But don't be put off ;) I will be opening a thread to take entries etc in a couple of days. So Keep an eye out for that :D
HydraOcarinaV2
19 Sep 2011, 06:20 AM
Can it be any song or does it have to fit a certain genre?
We're going to be using movie themes.
As long as it's from a movie, you can do any genre you like.

(I am probably going to play gake no ue no ponyo)
Edited by Sherb, 19 Sep 2011, 08:32 AM.
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AmandaCeline
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Cool, I'll probably enter if my camera agrees with me.

Can you enter Anime themes?
Edited by AmandaCeline, 20 Sep 2011, 07:24 AM.
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Aleatz
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TV themes as well, if we could. >.> It makes it a little broad, but most of the well-known film themes have been covered in the past, and if the category is a bit broader this might reduce doubling.
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Princess JennieO
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I know how to Play the 'Main Theme' from the Movie Free Willy so I can submit that If this discussion goes on to be a video
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hjordis
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I'll probably go with colours of the Wind if that counts, but I might have to change that if I can't get the high note on my ocarina to cooperate.
Edited by hjordis, 20 Sep 2011, 03:53 PM.
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Sherb
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TV themes is much broader, I suppose that could work.

Also, these are ideas are all great!
I'll make the announcement thread about the actual collab tomorrow~
AmandaCeline
20 Sep 2011, 06:47 AM
Cool, I'll probably enter if my camera agrees with me.

Can you enter Anime themes?
Anime MOVIE themes, sure~
Edited by Sherb, 20 Sep 2011, 05:11 PM.
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Cambell
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Awesome idea! I would love to help with an entry of some kind :) movie themes is a great idea, because of the sheer scope that it involves. Hope I'll have my double by then for some Disney tunes! :D
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Sherb
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The official collab thread is open!
http://theocarinanetwork.com/topic/7083619/

Go there to claim your place in the collab!
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mmxz40
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Question: Does "Promise (reprise)" count? It was used in the Silent Hill movie.
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Sherb
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I would love it if that song was included! go right ahead.

(it's one of my favourite songs of all time)

Make sure to claim a place in the main thread though!
Edited by Sherb, 21 Sep 2011, 10:52 PM.
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mmxz40
21 Sep 2011, 10:26 PM
Question: Does "Promise (reprise)" count? It was used in the Silent Hill movie.
....-was coming in here just to claim it-

Ah well, I'll think of something else.
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Are we excluding some of the more common ocarina songs like "My Heart Will Go On" or "Lugia's Song/theme"?
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HydraOcarinaV2
22 Sep 2011, 06:33 AM
Are we excluding some of the more common ocarina songs like "My Heart Will Go On" or "Lugia's Song/theme"?
Sadness and Sorrow is another played too many times.
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Sherb
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They aren't excluded. But I would rather you didn't do that. It'd get very boring for the viewer to watch the same song multiple times
I would also like to thank everyone who has entered so far.
This has already had a better turnout than I expected!

Good luck with your videos everyone~
Edited by Sherb, 22 Sep 2011, 03:22 PM.
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OkamiFlautist
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Is "Hedwig's theme" another one that is overplayed? It probably is, but I was thinking about doing that song and goin full out with the costume.
Edited by OkamiFlautist, 22 Sep 2011, 04:12 PM.
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Sherb
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I don't think it will be overdone.
Go for :D
(Costume sounds awesome xD)
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Films + ocarinas = dream come true for me. This is the best idea for a collaboration i have ever heard, however i doubt i will be joining. I already thought of dozens upon dozens of themes i could play, but picking one is another thing entirely...not to mention i am camera/performance shy (plus anything i play would need some accompaniment from my brother on guitar and he's too busy with his new band these days). I won't be participating, but i really look forward to seeing everyone's entries, good luck to all!
Edited by Everett Ocarinas, 22 Sep 2011, 10:13 PM.
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Sherb
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Awww :( It's a shame you can't participate.
There will always be a slot for you, if you change your mind ^^
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Dullahan
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Don't you just love soundwalking?

I'm so tempted to play the main theme from Paprika, but that'd be pretty freaking hard. Yet I'll try to do so. :) I'm also thinking about some other films, but right now that one sounds very very tempting.
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Llisas
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I decided I'm going to play the Braveheart theme. I'm probably going to paint my face like William Wallace xD
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Everett Ocarinas
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As in Satoshi Kon's Paprika? If so, wow...that would be difficult, but i would adore you forever if you did that Dully, Satoshi Kon is one of my favourite directors (i was devastated when he died) and Paprika was the film that made me fall in love with his work. I chose Paprika (and Perfect Blue) as two films to bring under study in my final dissertation at university two years ago, gosh i love those films. Susumu Hirasawa who did the music, i love his work too (though Paredo is my favourite piece of music from Paprika).

(I am aware there is another film out there titled by the same name, so i'm sorry if i am mistaken in which film you mean, but either way, awesome if you are gonna participate) C:
Edited by Everett Ocarinas, 23 Sep 2011, 12:46 AM.
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Sherb
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Some great ideas here!

I just listened to the paprika theme, it sounds hard ;-;

Also the braveheart theme is nice, I like the idea :D
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