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| Subhole Poll; it rhymes | |
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| Topic Started: Mar 11 2010, 01:53 AM (401 Views) | |
| Ocarina Sensei | Mar 11 2010, 01:53 AM Post #1 |
Is Death a part of Life... or is Life a part of Death
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Old topic - closed. -speckles- Japanese style is both on right and taiwanese is one subhole on each Edited by speckles, May 18 2010, 04:24 AM.
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| Skye | Mar 11 2010, 02:27 AM Post #2 |
Do what you will...
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I prefer Japanese here. |
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| kissing | Mar 11 2010, 02:41 AM Post #3 |
there is always time for a song
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I wholeheartedly have no particular preferences. My favourite ocarinas have either type of subholes, and it doesn't really affect my playing at all. |
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| David F. | Mar 11 2010, 02:52 AM Post #4 |
I WANT YOUR PHOTOS!!!!
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i prefer the Japanese style! but that's only because im used to it, i sumtimes catch my self moving both finger in my right hand even when i play one of my Taiwanese style ocs! 
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| Kiniko | Mar 11 2010, 02:57 AM Post #5 |
<3 Lolicon
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Japanese all the way! |
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| Ocarina Sensei | Mar 11 2010, 03:18 AM Post #6 |
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Is Death a part of Life... or is Life a part of Death
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I prefer japan the country however my pointer finger is too small to cover the subhole so i like the Taiwanese version |
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| Bateleur | Mar 11 2010, 03:48 AM Post #7 |
We are the music makers, and we are the dreamers of dreams.
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I prefer the Taiwanese sub-holes for multiple reasons.
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| hylandude123456789 | Mar 11 2010, 04:05 AM Post #8 |
It's hylandude!
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Taiwanese because STL spoiled me 
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| Sigurthr | Mar 11 2010, 05:07 AM Post #9 |
Ocarinist, Recorderist, Welder/Metalsmith, and resident wana-be Norseman.
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I'm partial to Japanese subholes myself. My dragontooth has both and I have a hard time using the left hand one even though I'm left handed. |
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| Moonsyne | Mar 11 2010, 05:41 AM Post #10 |
☆ Luminary ☆
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I prefer ocarinas without subholes.
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| Panch | Mar 11 2010, 07:10 AM Post #11 |
The Whistlemaker
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I'm left-handed, and it makes no difference to me, in terms of playing. Even though I'm more used to Japanese style fingering. Therefore I vote for looks alone, and Japanese takes the cake. To be honest, though, I prefer the look of 13-holed ocarinas. |
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| Brendoge | Mar 11 2010, 07:19 AM Post #12 |
► ♫ #1 Ocar - Rockstar! ♫ ◄
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I rather the japanese fingering, with my Taiwanese ocarina I seem to miss the upper sub-hole 9 times out of 10. I wouldn't think left/right handed would change the preference for you Bat as Panch has mentioned. Most likely it's whichever you're mostly used to, did you begin with a Taiwanese sub-hole layout? and Moonsyne, are you serious there? I guess it does make things easier |
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| shirf02 | Mar 11 2010, 11:31 AM Post #13 |
Enjoys the Disney Renaissance
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I don't have a preference simply because I have no ocs with the Japanese layout. All Taiwanese for me. |
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| subakuryu | Mar 11 2010, 12:02 PM Post #14 |
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Resident Koopa/Dragon of TON
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I prefer the taiwanese here. I'm not sure if it's the subholes or the dragontooth itself, but that's my only jap sub ocarina and it hasn't been very kind to me, haha! |
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| Crowler | Mar 11 2010, 12:58 PM Post #15 |
emergency medical hologram
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Whoo, ten votes each! I like the Japanese ones, but mostly because more of the really nice ocarinas tend to have Japanese subholes, and hence I'll put more effort into practicing with those. That, and I've only ever had an STL with Taiwanese subholes, which was a less-than-great experience! |
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| shirf02 | Mar 11 2010, 01:02 PM Post #16 |
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Enjoys the Disney Renaissance
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Focalink directs are Taiwanese style. |
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| Kalasinar | Mar 11 2010, 01:31 PM Post #17 |
Colour-Blind Hedgehog of Great Britain
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Because my preferred ocarina is a Focalink, i would say Taiwanese...however, since getting my Maparam Double Soprano F, i've adapted well to the Japanese sub-hole placements. So all in all, i don't really have a preference now. As long as the sub-holes work fine, i don't mind which placement they are. You should have an extra poll choice saying 'both' 
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| Kuwabara | Mar 11 2010, 05:44 PM Post #18 |
16-Bit
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Seeing as how I only own one oc with sub-holes, I don't really have a preference (my Noble is on the Japanese system it would seem). I DO want to try a Taiwanese system though.. |
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| GabeGT | Mar 11 2010, 06:21 PM Post #19 |
Intermediate
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All I have are ocs with Taiwanese... but I just ordered an AC from songbird, so I shall vote atfer I get it. Till then, Tawanese all the way! |
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| SpencervdM | Mar 11 2010, 07:32 PM Post #20 |
Resident Japanologist
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I only have one 12-hole, which is in Japanese style. The first two or so days I thought a Taiwanese styled model might have been easier to start on. I don't remember the exact reason, but I tried both ways as if the holes where there, and the movement you make for Taiwanese felt more natural. Especially when switching from subtonic A to B or Bb and back. But soon after I started seeing the profit of Japanese style. Switching between low A, B and Bb are rare, and in my opinion low A is (after a day or two of getting used to the ocarina) easier to reach using two fingers right next to eachother than two fingers on complete different hands. But still, I have never even seen a Taiwanese subhole layout in real life. I based this on trying out the movements out without actually being able to compare them in action, so you should take my opinion with a grain of salt. I do intend trying a Taiwanese style oc with my next purchase. (edit: lol, I just made the poll a tie by voting Japanese. xD 12 votes for Japanese and 12 votes for Taiwanese) Edited by SpencervdM, Mar 11 2010, 07:35 PM.
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| Glup | Mar 11 2010, 08:12 PM Post #21 |
a.k.a totten94
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Japanese all the way!!! and if I have to choose a second place, it would be the thirteen-hole system.. |
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| shirf02 | Mar 12 2010, 02:35 PM Post #22 |
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Enjoys the Disney Renaissance
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Every time I've looked, there's been a difference of 1 or less between the two. I'd say it's pretty even. |
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| SpencervdM | Mar 12 2010, 03:06 PM Post #23 |
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Resident Japanologist
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Same here. I have not (yet?) seen a difference of 2 or more, which is a pretty interesting fact. It proves that the opinions are really divided, and there does not seem to be a dominant style in the "Western" ocarina community.
Edited by SpencervdM, Mar 12 2010, 03:07 PM.
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| atkeane | Mar 13 2010, 06:10 AM Post #24 |
Uber Ocarinist X 2
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I voted for Japanese, but honestly I'm pretty torn. I do absolutely love the way the Japanese style subholes feel on my Maparam double, and for songs where I have to switch from a B to Bb or from a C# to Bb (I have had to do both) that style seems to be most friendly. However, I've also never really had any issue at all with the Taiwanese system, and in fact my Focalink Triple, and Focalink Plastic Soprano, the two ocarinas I currently use most use the Taiwanese subhole system. I don't know though, I like them both, however the Japanese system gets a slight win for me because of the slight relative ease with which I can switch which subhole I'm holding. |
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| Fall | Mar 13 2010, 07:51 AM Post #25 |
Beginner
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I have a hard time even reaching the subholes. >< I sometimes try to alter the songs if possible so that I don't have to deal with them. But I've only had a Japanese style ocarina, so maybe the Taiwanese style would be easier. |
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| Crowler | Mar 13 2010, 01:14 PM Post #26 |
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emergency medical hologram
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I might be down to the OOT being a very bulbous ocarina. Because it has a bit of a steep curve for you to run your fingers up when reaching the subholes, they're a lot harder to reach than subholes on a flat surface. |
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| Nimue | Mar 13 2010, 01:41 PM Post #27 |
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I prefer the Taiwanese style, but I also want to be able to play the Japanese style... because someday, I want a Panch and a Woodsound. They are both so pretty I can hardly stand it. |
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| shadowyi | Mar 15 2010, 05:06 PM Post #28 |
is a girl. [音之翼]
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I rather prefer the Japanese style, I think it's a lot simpler and cleaner by having everything on the same side. |
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