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Hind; Discuss Hind ocarinas here
Topic Started: Apr 26 2008, 10:23 AM (10,857 Views)
Angelodeath
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Is the Immortal Technique

I emailed Mr. Hind about the Zelda pendant in Corian and this is what he said, in case someone else is interested


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Hi Luis,

I don't have any of those made right now. I was planning to only continue that size in wood, but I have had many requests for the corian. The price will be $199, and I'll keep your name on a list to be notified if I make more.

Thanks,

Charlie Hind



Price seems steep but a handmade ocarina out of a solid block of rock carved by an expert craftsman who's legacy might end with him is priceless!!
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Shinobinlove
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Just an FYI, as of two days ago Mr. Hind has about 6-8 weeks lag time if you're going to be ordering a custom sweet potato. Guess a lot of people really want one right now!
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Glup
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I've finally found out what my next oc will be, and that's a Hind! :D
I contacted mr. Hind and got a response extremely fast.. (That's service! :D )
WE figured out that a Mahogany and Padauk ocarina would fit me best..
Here is an example except that it's cocobolo instead of Mahogany:
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Ocarikun18
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I'm strongly considering getting a Hind like now. It's been a dream oc for a while, but I don't know what type of wood to get. How do the different woods affect the sound of the ocarina? I might just email Mr. Hind and ask him.
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Glup
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Mr. Hind answers really quickly and the mail you get back are what you may call Perfect! Inside the mail you get back you have everything you need to know after a question is asked! :D
I asked him what ocarina would fit me the most!
I also said that I wanted the most mellow and warm sounding ocarina I could get!

And his mail back was this:

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Hi Torstein,

Some of the most mellow, warmest sounding tenor sweet potatoes I've made have been from Mahogany. It's not as extremely hard as the rosewoods, and that probably contributes to it's exceptional tone quality on the lower instruments. I've attached two pictures showing the last Mahogany I made. The price list is also attached in case you want to consider other woods. Padauk is another good one.

I hope this is helpful, and let me know if you have any more questions.

Kind regards,

Charlie Hind



That mail was sent to me 10 minutes after I sent my mail to him!
That's good service! :D
Edited by Glup, Mar 20 2009, 08:48 AM.
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shadowyi
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is a girl. [音之翼]

Mr. Hind uses all hardwood so any ocarina he makes will sound excellent. It's a matter of preference, I feel. I love Honduras Rosewood for the pattern and the rosewood smell. Others have said cocobolo is one of the best woods for woodwinds, and so on and so forth.

Angelofdeath -- I hate thinking that his legacy might end with him. SIGH.
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Angelodeath
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I know me 2 shadowyi. I dont own any of his ocarinas but I have a high regard for them. I wish i could own one of his masterpieces
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subakuryu
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>.=.< I really Really REALLY want my hands on his double ocarina now! I've been waitin for over two weeks already for my order to come in haha! I'm sure he's a busy man, but he promised that he'd mail it by the end of last week(March 28) and said that an email would be sent notifying me of it's journey to my doorstep, but there's been no sign of it /anywhere/ in my email! My account on his website has no sig of it being sent either. D: Oh the joys of anticipating something that you truly enjoy. I LOVE ocarinas and the music I can make with them! When I get my hands on his ocarina I'll be sure to make a fair amount of vids with it. After all, I've seen very few owners post vids showcasing it. ;) Come on Mr. Hind! I'll do my best to help ya increase your sales!
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shadowyi
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is a girl. [音之翼]

^Hehehe, that might be the last thing he needs right now. All ocarina orders are backed up six to eight weeks, so the poor guy is REALLY busy.
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subakuryu
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I lvoe love love love LVOE LOVE LOVE LOVE my hind double ! <3<3<3<3<3<3dfghndfgsdfj bnsdkgn ;snjmgljwnbhloner Even though it r4eally is a challenge to use the different fingerings and figuring out great harmonies is a challenge, it is definitely gonna be worth it's price! :}
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Lanea
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:D Yeah, Harmony is whole new dimension of ocarina playing. If you play a single afterwards, it sounds really... lonely... the sound reminds me of a twin, who lost its brother...
But luckily that feeling doesn't last long... :)
Ocarinas sound always so soothing :)
I just had guests and played on some of my ocarinas, until they lost interest in my play. Then I picked up my harmony and they were all really surprised, how different and beautiful that sound is. :D
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CharlieHind
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Hi Everyone, Thank you for all the positive comments about my instruments. I just registered here a few days ago, and it's nice to read what has been on people's minds. I'll check in every couple of days if any of you have any specific questions about woods, doubles, etc.

Charlie
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Armisis
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Paradoxical Enigma

Welcome to the group Sir!

I cant wait to get mine!

Dave Stanton
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kissing
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there is always time for a song

Hehe, I'm loving my Hind :)
First vid:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bgT5Nl2u60w&fmt=16
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beekarina
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Your resident beekeeper with ocs
I love the sound of my Hind walnut, but after playing so many ocs that need lots of air, I've been having trouble over-blowing my Hind. Poor thing screams at me until I tone the breath down.

Uronoro! If you read this, get a Hind walnut for playing in the house. It's a nice, fairly quiet oc.
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Elven Spellmaker
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== Cirno -- Opinionated Baka == OI SAM, STOP IT XD]

I would only consider buying a Hind sweet potato is Hind did custom fingerings, i.e. WPN style subholes.

I would like to get a few Hind inlines though, just to "complete" my collection. (for now)
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sirhalos
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Well Charlie said he would answer our questions which is wonderful of him so I'll start it off.

Thank you Charlie for joining our Ocarina forums here! We members here have a very high degree of respect of the art and craft you put in your instruments and quality in sound. If you don’t mind I would like to ask some questions about your design process.

-Subholes
Sweet Potato Ocarinas usually come in two different subhole fingerings the Japanese way (right hand index and middle finger) and the Taiwanese way (left hand middle finger and right hand middle finger). Your sweet potatoes however follow a unique placement for subholes.

How did end up deciding on where you were going to place the subholes on your Ocarinas? What advantages do you find with your placement of the subholes over the Japanese and Taiwanese styles? Are these advantages unique to wood sweet potatoes only?

-Wood selection
You offer a big verity of beautiful woods for your Ocarinas where do you purchase your wood from? Do you have different vendors? Do you go out and select the wood pieces by hand? Do you buy them in bulk? What locations in the world do your woods come from?

-History
What came first for you working with wood or playing music? Did enjoy wood and created wooden instruments only to learn and enjoy them? Or did you play instruments then try to make them out of wood and enjoyed them?

Thanks for your time Mr Hind and enjoy your stay at The Ocarina Network!


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CharlieHind
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Hi sirhalos,

Thank you for your kind words about my instruments. I'll by happy to answer your questions.

-Subholes
My sweet potato ocarinas have only one subhole, and it is in the same place as the instruments you mentioned. In the beginning I made a few sweet potatoes with two subholes, but on two out of five instruments, the top note didn't have as pure a tone as I wanted. It takes so long to make one instrument that I couldn't take any more time experimenting with voicing. I decided that for me it was better to have a perfect top note and forego the low A. There are probably plenty of people who would be happy with the tone of the top note I was getting, but I wasn't. I knew that by limiting the range I would be limiting my market, but my first goal has always been to make an instrument I enjoy playing. The subhole next to the right middle finger lowers the tonic note (C) down 1/2 step to B. The double hole next to the right little finger is only used for playing C# (F# on the tenor and soprano). It works like the low double holes on recorder. I like having quick and easy access to this note when playing in d minor. It is a real advantage.

-Wood selection
I like picking out boards myself, by hand. I have to be very careful to find any cracks and other flaws that I wouldn't want in the finished instrument. Unfortunately there aren't that many dealers in exotic woods in my area. I recently rode my scooter up to Greenville and bought some cocobolo and yellowheart at Woodcraft. Read about that trip in the "New Members" section (post #355). Tomorrow I'll be driving down to Columbia to buy some Grenadilla for a tenor. Of course I can't always afford to drive to buy wood. Sometimes I have the dealer ship it to me. It's hard to afford to buy exotic woods in "bulk" because it's so expensive. The biggest order I've made was on a small pallet about 4 feet square and stacked about 18 inches high. That small pile cost over $1000. Last year I spent over $4000 on wood. The woods I use come from the US, Central America, South America, and Africa.

-History
I had never made anything out of wood before I started making recorders in 1975. I wanted a nice wooden recorder and couldn't afford to buy one. At the time I was a music major in college. I took a night course at a local tech school to learn how to run a lathe. So from the beginning I made instruments to suit myself. I progressed from recorders to transverse flutes, xylophones, and finally ocarinas in 1981.
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Uronoro
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Where Have You Sinners Gone?

The amount of effort you must go through just to make one ocarina must be incredible. I'm starting to value them and your hard work even more now, if that was possible.

I hope the profit you make off your ocarinas is helping you to live comfortably while providing for your continuing business. I'm starting to think you're selling them too cheap. :C Do you accept tips?
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atkeane
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I've really liked the tone of the Hind Ocarinas I've heard. Then there's the whole beautiful look thing which matches the sound, and you have this all around astonishingly amazingly beautiful instrument, and now I think I may have to save up to get one eventually. Though I still need to think about what wood I would want...
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jwchargers13
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Pendanters
After hearing Kissing's self-duet with his ukelele and hind ocarina, I ordered the same kind of hind ocarina. I really loved the sound and the design. Okay, so I don't play as good as him yet, but who cares. It's in Bflat, so it will be different from my other ocarina in C. I also love wooden instruments, and for like $58 total with shipping, it's a steal. Maybe in the future I'll put a video or two up on youtube
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Armisis
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Paradoxical Enigma

I've done my recording of my 100th video on my Hind Sweet Potato soprano, I have also ordered a Tenor Sweet Potato as well.

I'm just waiting to see if anyone is going to send me a video of them playing the song before uploading it...

Anyway all the best,

Dave
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beekarina
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Oh, that's going to be lovely, Dave. The walnuts are so nice. Can't wait to hear the sound of the Hind sweet potato. Gotta be even nicer.
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Dhalphir
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I wish there was a Hind double sweet potato
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Toshi
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Snake? Snake?! SNAAAKKEE!!!
@Dhalphir
You mean to extend the range? He already makes a harmony double.
Everyone here seems to be interested in a wooden multi-chambered ocarina that extends range...I would love one, too. :double: :triple: :jumpy:

I was eyeing the Focalink doubles until I saw and heard the hinds...now I need to pick some woods...I love purpleheart and walnut, so maybe those two layered?
I'm just wondering if they would make a good-sounding ocarina, or even if it would look nice...
Decisions, decisions... -_-
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Adam
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@ Toshi, or for an extended range double, you can always ask lanea to make one for you, but the pricing would probably be 500+ dollars, for the double.

C ya
Adam
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Dhalphir
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Toshi
May 15 2009, 12:26 PM
@Dhalphir
You mean to extend the range? He already makes a harmony double.
Everyone here seems to be interested in a wooden multi-chambered ocarina that extends range...I would love one, too. :double: :triple: :jumpy:

I was eyeing the Focalink doubles until I saw and heard the hinds...now I need to pick some woods...I love purpleheart and walnut, so maybe those two layered?
I'm just wondering if they would make a good-sounding ocarina, or even if it would look nice...
Decisions, decisions... -_-
No, its not about extending the range.

I just don't like inlines.

Tried to play a friends Mountain G and it just seemed too weird. I like sweet potatoes too much.
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shadowyi
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is a girl. [音之翼]

Then it definitely sounds like you should try the harmony, that's my next purchase as well. :D
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Lanea
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Adam
May 15 2009, 12:32 PM
@ Toshi, or for an extended range double, you can always ask lanea to make one for you, but the pricing would probably be 500+ dollars, for the double.

C ya
Adam
:D Thank you for your trust in the quality of my ocarinas. Alas, I am pretty busy these days and cannot invest time in our beloved hobby of ocarina making (and I think it will have to stay a hobby, never growing to a business). Hopefully this gets better during summer. We will see... As I still haven't made my personal perfect ocarina, there 'might' (only maybe!) some ocarinas for sale on my way to that goal someday. But for now, I cannot accept any orders, sorry for that. :)

And I'd love to own a hind harmony one day... :) *dream*
My selfmade wooden harmony just looks ugly :facepalm: and I forgot to make split holes, so I have to halfcover holes for sharps, but on the other hand, its sound is really good enough to prevent me investing money in yet another ocarina :D (oh we are all so addicted)
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flip
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"the switch"
Man, when did Mr. Hind start making the doubles that extended the range on the ocs? I must be out of touch, considering I haven't been around much in the last year...

The one on his front page looks impressive!! If you haven't seen it, take a look!

Here is the one he was selling, but is already sold...:(

http://hindocarina.com/ocarinas/index.php?l=product_detail&p=321
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Andy
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C'est La Même Chose

There's already a discussion about his double ocs in the Hind Discovery Thread. You missed a lot, flip. :lmao:


Glad to see you back though. :)
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Ninocarino
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A dream made reality. Oh love, o charm...iguana....Ahhh...
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Mike
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i have their tenor its fun to mess around with
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ZaffoGMT
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I want a Hind, but they are out if my price range for now, oh well.
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kuraisong
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The "Dark Song" singer
I plan on getting myself one within a month or two, I just cant decide which one I want (Kid in a candy store eh?)
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shadowyi
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is a girl. [音之翼]

I'm waiting for Mr. Hind to have time to make my double. Been waiting for it for.. two? Three months now? :(
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Hershmaster47
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Would it be smarter to get a hind inline, or a mountain oc??
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Mevv
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not so much about being smart. If you mean cheaper though Mountain ocarinas would probably be best and they have no wait time. but a wooden ocarinas are known to have their original sound. all based on personal choice which is better.
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ooqueso
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Made the deposit on my Hind Double... The wait is killing me!! I had to start trying to carve my own wood ocarina to pacify myself.
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shadowyi
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is a girl. [音之翼]

Hershmaster - are you a clumsy person? Do your belongings often look like they've gone through a tornado more than once? If so, go for a MO. If not, definitely the Hind.
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Mike
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i need to get a mountain poly to compare to my hind =\ the day will come i tell you! :shakefist:
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Ocarinadiva
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www.crisgale.com

I received my Hind double today and it is absolutely beautiful in every way.
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tomg
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The bicycling ocarinist.
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Aug 25 2009, 05:33 AM
I received my Hind double today and it is absolutely beautiful in every way.
Lucky you. I'm still waiting on my Hind double which I ordered
about two months ago. It's hard to wait, but I'm sure that it
will be more than worth it the wait.
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Legal
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tomg
Aug 27 2009, 08:41 PM
Ocarinadiva
Aug 25 2009, 05:33 AM
I received my Hind double today and it is absolutely beautiful in every way.
Lucky you. I'm still waiting on my Hind double which I ordered
about two months ago. It's hard to wait, but I'm sure that it
will be more than worth it the wait.
Haha...I'm still waiting as well.
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King Ocarina
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Pére Poches Drôles
I would LOVE to have an entire collection of hind inlines, but I'm afraid they will warp out of perfection quicker than I can fully enjoy them.
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