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| Topic Started: Mar 8 2008, 05:17 PM (8,640 Views) | |
| hirohiigo | Dec 26 2009, 03:07 AM Post #361 |
Ocarinist x 3
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Oh wow, that's a pretty ocarina. I actually kind of want one. |
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| viperdvman | Dec 27 2009, 03:13 AM Post #362 |
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That's actually a pretty nice little pendant for looking of a Peruvian. I think it would be more of a decorative piece than any, with it having an odd fingering layout. |
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| Angelodeath | Dec 27 2009, 06:10 PM Post #363 |
Is the Immortal Technique
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Yea its really nice, even the tone is nice and warm. I just can't play it.  I hate the fingering chart included, and I think its wrong since it shows a natural note to be half-holed.  Doesn't sound right to me... |
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| Goose | Dec 27 2009, 11:32 PM Post #364 |
☯Surprised Ocarina! ♔
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The newer subholes look excellent! I might consider getting a double from them. |
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| viperdvman | Dec 28 2009, 12:37 PM Post #365 |
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Fledgling Ocarinist
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Like I said, if the new subholes are any different than the old ones and actually work better, I might get me another blue WPN Double AC to replace my current model, and just sell the old one on eBay 
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| zombiefewd1 | Dec 28 2009, 07:40 PM Post #366 |
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My thought's exactly. Id really like to hear some sound samples! For the fingering while I have never played an ocarina with this fingering I suggest practicing the scale consistently after a short time it will become very easy. -Desmond |
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| atkeane | Dec 29 2009, 02:09 AM Post #367 |
Uber Ocarinist X 2
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Remember that with Key of C in STL notes 4# is B and 4 is Bb... It looks pretty, and you say the tone is nice and maybe that might be the issue you have with the chart? |
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| zombiefewd1 | Feb 1 2010, 02:03 AM Post #368 |
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I think they look great too! Tell me about it if you buy one
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| ubizmo | Mar 16 2010, 06:49 PM Post #369 |
 
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This video seems to be at a TNG exhibit at some sort of convention. That's the Enigma, isn't it? Ubizmo |
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| zombiefewd1 | Apr 5 2010, 02:46 AM Post #370 |
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Look at all of those ocarinas on that desk behind him! Wow! |
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| Sigurthr | Apr 5 2010, 03:26 AM Post #371 |
Ocarinist, Recorderist, Welder/Metalsmith, and resident wana-be Norseman.
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I'd love a Triple Tenor F but I was told you need someone to order it for you who speaks chinese =/. That and I don't have the money now lol. $409 =/. |
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| O'Poltergeist | Apr 5 2010, 08:20 AM Post #372 |
Pink Elephant on Parade
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They make a Triple Tenor F? The dream ocarina for any recorder player! I guess I should start learning Chinese.... |
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| Bateleur | Apr 5 2010, 12:29 PM Post #373 |
We are the music makers, and we are the dreamers of dreams.
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Yes they do, it isn't a dream! Behold! Spoiler: click to toggle *cue the angelic choir* |
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| zombiefewd1 | Apr 8 2010, 02:25 AM Post #374 |
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Drool..... Thats sweet. |
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| PianoOnWheels | Apr 15 2010, 12:24 AM Post #375 |
Inliner
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WTH? I know what it's supposed to look like, but it is just plain ugly. PoW |
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| Kiniko | Apr 15 2010, 01:16 AM Post #376 |
<3 Lolicon
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That ocarina is worsening my recent thoughts of suicide. |
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| Ocarina Sensei | Apr 15 2010, 01:29 AM Post #377 |
Is Death a part of Life... or is Life a part of Death
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wao and 70$ too |
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| Abreu | Apr 15 2010, 03:03 AM Post #378 |
The guy from Brazil
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ok, the zelda replica had similarities with the original OoT... but this one if completely diferent from the fairy oc! They just re-paited a zelda replica!
Edited by Abreu, Apr 15 2010, 03:04 AM.
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| zombiefewd1 | Apr 15 2010, 03:26 AM Post #379 |
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Whoah! When did this happen? This is awesome! |
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| Kiniko | Apr 15 2010, 03:33 AM Post #380 |
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<3 Lolicon
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Desmond, that looks absolutely nothing like the fairy ocarina. At all. |
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| Moonsyne | Apr 15 2010, 03:40 AM Post #381 |
☆ Luminary ☆
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Competition orange? Reminds me of the General Lee from The Dukes of Hazzard!  Awesome?!?!
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| zombiefewd1 | Apr 15 2010, 03:41 AM Post #382 |
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Compare these.  They look very alike. I mean no offense but this looks nothing like the fairy ocarina: 
Edited by zombiefewd1, Apr 15 2010, 03:50 AM.
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| Kiniko | Apr 15 2010, 03:46 AM Post #383 |
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<3 Lolicon
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The words posted image do look nothing like the fairy ocarina. |
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| Crowler | Apr 15 2010, 09:32 AM Post #384 |
emergency medical hologram
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My goodness, STL is lazy. If you're going to design a fairy ocarina, don't just take an OOT, make it an awful, and too light shade of vomit, and paint the already inaccurate triangle green! Whereas I believe Songbird took creative liberties, and instead of making a fairy ocarina replica, recoloured his OOT a nice shade of red, and named it a 'fairy ocarina' to avoid confusion with the OOT. I don't really see anything wrong with this - it's not meant to be a replica of the fairy ocarina. It's bordering on telling off the makers of all transverse ocarinas for not making them blue. >_< STL's 'fairy ocarina' looks like someone's made a liquid, glaze-like, vomit, and put it all over something that you're going to be putting in your mouth! Ugh, it's making me gag on phlegm. I'd rather play a Chen Ching than this. |
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| Gremlin | Apr 15 2010, 09:39 AM Post #385 |
Best Item EVER!
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 omg it does look like vomit i would never put my mouth on that
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| saajveh | Apr 15 2010, 02:19 PM Post #386 |
Stargazer
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Hahah, it took a while before I realized that it's supposed to be the fairy ocarina. Well, well it's not a version that I'd like to have. |
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| zombiefewd1 | Apr 15 2010, 11:50 PM Post #387 |
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Then the one from the game looks like vomit too right?    I think the lighting in STL's picture might be bad. Edited by zombiefewd1, Apr 18 2010, 03:33 AM.
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| Bateleur | Apr 16 2010, 12:54 AM Post #388 |
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We are the music makers, and we are the dreamers of dreams.
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I remember clamoring a lot on the STL forum about how they should release a fairy ocarina. I think I might have helped the idea along to STL quite a bit, seeing as how posted multiple times about it & provided several reference pictures on a certain thread there, getting one or two staff members to respond. However, I clamored about a rich light brown finish, a completely different body style (more narrow and not as round as the OoT) and emphasized need on an inlaid gem of some sort. On second thought, I don't think I had much influence on this ocarina's release. =P |
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| zombiefewd1 | Apr 18 2010, 03:40 AM Post #389 |
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Take 5 seconds to compare these. They look very alike.
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| Gremlin | Apr 18 2010, 03:43 AM Post #390 |
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Yes it looks like that in the game to thats y i make  to do it
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| Kiniko | Apr 18 2010, 03:46 AM Post #391 |
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<3 Lolicon
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Or, you could go by the official art, which is generally considered to be more accurate than the in game polygons.  Terrible replica |
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| zombiefewd1 | Apr 18 2010, 04:00 AM Post #392 |
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In your opinion. |
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| Ocarina Sensei | Apr 18 2010, 04:03 AM Post #393 |
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Is Death a part of Life... or is Life a part of Death
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i like it but the picture is HORRIBLE im sure it looks a little better in person i still prefer spencers version of the fairy Edited by Ocarina Sensei, Apr 18 2010, 04:03 AM.
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| Abreu | Apr 18 2010, 05:04 AM Post #394 |
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The guy from Brazil
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No desmond, they don't, and you can't take a 3D mdoel from a n64 game as reference, you should take the concept art instead. In-game, they just re-painted the OoT to save game memory, but the original concept is completly different. |
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| Crowler | Apr 18 2010, 09:34 AM Post #395 |
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emergency medical hologram
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In your opinion. In the future, I dare to say that we could use Spencer's lovely replica as a benchmark for Fairy Ocarina (that is, the specific ocarina used by Link and Saria in the game) replicas. The closer you get to his, the better, since his is pretty much spot on. And if you were to compare STL's sad attempt to Spencer's... |
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| PianoOnWheels | Apr 18 2010, 02:56 PM Post #396 |
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Let someone who doesn't absolutely hate or absolutely love STL compare the two replicas, shall we? The Actual Thing TNG/WPN Replica -Wrong color -Wrong Shape -The original ocarina has no band around the mouthpiece -Triangle is the wrong shape, too small, and wrong color -It's backwards* -Holes are in the wrong spots* --- Spencer Replica  -Shape is a little off, particularly on the right-hand side, could be flatter -Triangle is the wrong color -It's backwards* -Holes are in the wrong spots* --- Now the backwardsness and positions of the holes can't really be blamed, since these are "12-hole replicas" and they aren't the left handed ocarinas Link would use. But after seeing the two of them compared to the original, the difference really is night and day. The Spencer replica is far more accurate, but not perfect. The TNG/WPN was a decent attempt, but there are a few problems. The main one being the color which, in my opinion, is extremely ugly. But asides from the color, it isn't really a bad ocarina looks wise, but more inaccurate. As I mentioned earlier though, the shape and hole positions can't be helped. PoW |
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| Crowler | Apr 18 2010, 03:01 PM Post #397 |
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I would say, however, that in a Fairy Ocarina replica, the key factors are;
Of course we want it to be a nice ocarina too, but for the Fairy Ocarina check-list, be it a working ocarina or not, you can't check any of these three boxes when it comes to STL's replica. However, you can with Spencer's, which Is why I consider it a model replica. |
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| Bateleur | Apr 18 2010, 03:46 PM Post #398 |
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We are the music makers, and we are the dreamers of dreams.
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And on top of that, compare STL's Ocarina of Time replicas with Spencer's. I don't think it's fair to compare the STL Fairy with the Spencer replica for the same reason that nobody compares the OoT replicas between the two. STL sells the budget Zelda replicas with minimal production costs. Spencer hand-crafts each and every one of his, makes them very accurate, but then they're only fit for collectors because of how high the cost usually is. I'm sure anyone can think up an analogy for this here, like comparing a low cost and economical Japanese sedan with a high cost European luxury car. Even still, if I needed a low cost vehicle at this exact moment, I'd wait for a better model to be released. But anyway, we're going off topic. |
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| Krešimir Cindrić | Apr 18 2010, 03:50 PM Post #399 |
In love with Ocarina di Budrio
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Panch's replica is going to be better than both of these combined!
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| Kiniko | Apr 18 2010, 03:56 PM Post #400 |
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<3 Lolicon
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I think in that analogy, the STL replica would more fit in as a very overpriced wooden barrel that you could possibly roll around on the street in. |
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| Crowler | Apr 18 2010, 03:58 PM Post #401 |
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emergency medical hologram
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I disagree - I think you can compare the two. They're both trying to do the same thing, and quite frankly, STL is charging way too much for said ocarina because it's a replica. It may be a 'budget' model, but it is no means a cheap ocarina, and still costs way more for having an incredibly inaccurate look to it. If you're buying a Fairy Ocarina, you have to pay that extra price. It's the same with everything else in life - if you want organic vegetables at a supermarket, you'll have to pay more. One way of looking at it, is that labeling something as a 'Fairy Ocarina' is a way to charge that much more for it. Spencer's is worthy of ultimately costing x% more than his standard ocarinas. STL's doesn't seem to be nearly enough of a Fairy Ocarina to cost y% more, which is why I compare them. I'm not saying that all Fairy Ocarinas should cost the same, but you can't expect someone to spend £70 on a Fairy Ocarina, when a standard ocarina of the same tuning would cost £35-£45, if the Fairy Ocarina is really barely a Fairy Ocarina. The premium you pay for a replica should be in relation to how good the replica is. |
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| zombiefewd1 | Apr 20 2010, 02:38 AM Post #402 |
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Surely. I might buy one next week. I will take pictures
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| O'Poltergeist | Apr 20 2010, 06:39 AM Post #403 |
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Pink Elephant on Parade
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Caution! Blasphemy: Spoiler: click to toggle |
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| Crowler | Apr 20 2010, 10:46 AM Post #404 |
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However, a lump of clay would look more like the in game Fairy Ocarina than either STL's or Spencer's. The in game one has holes on both sides, is a shapeless lump and the green band isn't even consistently shaped in the game! It's the N64, and the graphics, especially on something as minor as this, are pretty awful. I certainly think that you should go by the original art (as Spencer did), because the in game art is not something to base an ocarina off of. Are you going to make it that awful shape and have holes on both sides, and have a ring on it that changes depending on how you look at it? STL, as you can see by the triangle, also based theirs off the art. You can say that theirs looks more like the in game art (though the colour, ring and holes are wrong, while Spencer's has the colour right), but the in game art is a lumpy, ugly interpretation of what it should look like, which is want Spencer's looks like. |
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| zombiefewd1 | Apr 26 2010, 12:27 AM Post #405 |
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There ya go.  I think it looks amazing. Just looking at it puts a smile on my face because of the happy glaze. It also sounds wonderful! Super clear high notes and the subholes work very easy. I will post a sound sample video soon. Edited by zombiefewd1, Apr 26 2010, 12:27 AM.
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